{"id":26136,"date":"2019-05-13T06:00:09","date_gmt":"2019-05-13T05:00:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/a-desk.org\/magazine\/fracaso-de-texto-ricardo-duque-vista-oral\/"},"modified":"2019-05-17T15:31:06","modified_gmt":"2019-05-17T14:31:06","slug":"fracaso-de-texto-ricardo-duque-vista-oral","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/a-desk.org\/ca\/magazine\/fracaso-de-texto-ricardo-duque-vista-oral\/","title":{"rendered":"Frac\u00e0s de text"},"content":{"rendered":"

VISTA ORAL:<\/strong>Seguint la nostra traject\u00f2ria de projectes in\u00fatils, ens han encarregat una l\u00ednia editorial per a A*DESK i hem triat com a tema el FRAC\u00c0S. Potser per pura cl\u00ednica, potser per aquesta resist\u00e8ncia a acceptar determinades l\u00f2giques que semblen imposar-se des del context en el qual ens movem.<\/p>\n

Paradoxalment hem pensat en tu, igual que ho vam fer amb l’enc\u00e0rrec per a la publicaci\u00f3 CAGADAS[i]<\/a><\/sup>, per aquest posicionament que suposen els projectes autogestionats a no rendir-se, aquesta perseveran\u00e7a que no respon a l\u00f2giques neoliberals, que s\u00f3n les que sostenen les dicotomies \u00e8xit\/frac\u00e0s. Per\u00f2 vaja, que tu pots plantejar-ho com et vingui en gana.<\/p>\n

RICARDO DUQUE:<\/strong>Estimades, la veritat \u00e9s que molaria que pogu\u00e9ssim fer d’aix\u00f2 una entrevista, buscar temes m\u00e9s espec\u00edfics i a mode de preguntes, perqu\u00e8 d’aqu\u00ed puguem filar juntes una entrevista\/text interessant. El tema del frac\u00e0s es pot tractar des de moltes perspectives. En el frac\u00e0s sempre est\u00e0 impl\u00edcit l’intent, i aix\u00f2 \u00e9s el proc\u00e9s, a vegades els processos s\u00f3n tot, i els resultats al final s\u00f3n tancaments de cicles. Jo en la majoria de projectes d’aquest tipus en els quals m’he ficat\u00a0 \u2014hi segueixo ficat!\u2014, crec que es tracta m\u00e9s aviat de resili\u00e8ncia.<\/em><\/p>\n

D’altra banda est\u00e0 l’espectacle del frac\u00e0s. Jo soc un fan d’aquesta branca dels mems que giren al voltant del frac\u00e0s, el cl\u00e0ssic <\/em>epicfail.<\/em><\/p>\n

Tamb\u00e9 m’interessa pensar si s’ha de considerar o no frac\u00e0s alguna cosa que simplement no es dirigeix en el seu cam\u00ed a l’\u00e8xit, \u00e9s a dir, que la fi no \u00e9s el que convencionalment es coneix com triomfar, i tal vegada \u00e9s nom\u00e9s aix\u00ed com es poden obrir nous camins, formes de fer i noves preguntes.<\/em><\/p>\n

No s\u00e9 molt b\u00e9 per on voleu prendre aix\u00f2, per\u00f2 a veure si alguna d’aquestes vies us obre idees per on tirar. No s\u00e9 si voleu que parlem de projectes espec\u00edfics i maneres de fer en les que estic involucrat o voleu que parlem sobre aquestes coses m\u00e9s en general, com si estigu\u00e9ssim de canyes en un bar.<\/em><\/p>\n

VO<\/strong>: Ric, qu\u00e8 et sembla que aix\u00f2 sigui m\u00e9s una conversa que una entrevista? El format entrevista no el manegem res b\u00e9, creiem que filant les idees que a tu et vagin sorgint amb el que nosaltres pensem pot funcionar, qu\u00e8 opines?<\/p>\n

RD<\/strong>: S\u00ed, em sembla perfecte. Com comencem? Us agrada alguna de les idees de dalt per a comen\u00e7ar?<\/em><\/p>\n

VO<\/strong>: Quan nosaltres pensem en el frac\u00e0s, o en l’in\u00fatil, ens interessa el malguany en si, la disfunci\u00f3 i el desastre, no com a ensopecs en un proc\u00e9s d’aprenentatge, sin\u00f3 com un fi en si mateix, com una postura pol\u00edtica que defensa l’abs\u00e8ncia d’\u00e8xit, com a espai de resist\u00e8ncia en el qual succeeixen altres coses. Creiem que ets alg\u00fa que no nom\u00e9s transita aquests espais de resist\u00e8ncia sin\u00f3 que \u00e9s capa\u00e7 de generar-los i continuar-los amb inusitada resili\u00e8ncia, amb un entusiasme que a trav\u00e9s de l’autogesti\u00f3, la reivindica com un espai real d’autonomia i que va molt m\u00e9s all\u00e0 dels l\u00edmits del pragmatisme de les l\u00f2giques capitalistes.<\/p>\n

No hav\u00edem pensat en aix\u00f2 de l’espectacle del frac\u00e0s, per\u00f2 \u00e9s cert que hi ha certa est\u00e8tica del loser, compartici\u00f3 telem\u00e0tica d’aquests epic<\/em>fails<\/em>. Si vols estirar d’aquest fil, per nosaltres fant\u00e0stic. En realitat ens ve de gust que parlis del que vulguis, no hi ha una fi concreta.<\/p>\n

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RD<\/strong>: La veritat \u00e9s que aquest text, en part, cont\u00e9 una de les m\u00e9s efectives receptes per al frac\u00e0s: mostrar els processos i els budells de la deriva, intentar fer-ho de manera col\u00b7lectiva i diluir la responsabilitat, aquest virus de tot el col\u00b7lectiu. En part, en llegir el que hem escrit abans a manera de cerca i la vostra decisi\u00f3 de fer p\u00fablic i transparent el proc\u00e9s, tinc la sensaci\u00f3 de que aix\u00f2 \u00e9s ja en s\u00ed un text interessant sobre el frac\u00e0s. Qu\u00e8 s\u00f3n aquests <\/em>epicfailssi no draps bruts que algun \u00abcol\u00b7lega\u00bb decideix fer p\u00fablics? Mostrar els budells de la creaci\u00f3 d’aix\u00f2 que estem fent a dist\u00e0ncia, sense rumb fix, com una conversa de borratxos en un bar en <\/em>streaming.<\/em><\/p>\n

Per\u00f2 l’\u00e8xit aquest, que s’aixeca orgull\u00f3s a l’altre costat de la dicotomia enfrontat al frac\u00e0s, qu\u00e8 \u00e9s? Perqu\u00e8 les xarxes socials, la publicitat, les pel\u00b7l\u00edcules i tot el soroll visual al qual estem sotmesos estan plens d’emulacions i pantomimes d’alguna cosa que sembla estar considerat com a \u00e8xit, per\u00f2 a mi sincerament ni em sedueix, ni m’atreu, m\u00e9s aviat el contrari. Des de la meva experi\u00e8ncia personal, crec que si el m\u00f3n est\u00e0 desbocat en un corrent regit per les normes neoliberals, el millor i m\u00e9s satisfactori \u00e9s fer-se a un costat, i quedar-se en un d’aquests recessos que es fan entre les roques a la riba del riu. Aix\u00f2 s\u00ed, aquestes roques cal construir-les, i des d’all\u00ed es pot veure l’espectacle fren\u00e8tic des d’una altra perspectiva. Des del frac\u00e0s? Pot ser, per\u00f2 si el premi \u00e9s entrar en el corrent i guanyar aquesta carrera, prefereixo quedar-me en aquests microh\u00e0bitats que hem constru\u00eft (al costat de molta gent, sempre) i gaudir del que realment em mou a dedicar la meva \u00abamplada de banda mental\u00bb. <\/em><\/p>\n

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Dinou, publicaci\u00f3 distribu\u00efda durant la manifestaci\u00f3 del 19 de juny de 2011 a Barcelona. Una publicaci\u00f3 espont\u00e0nia que recollia frases, idees i converses recollides durant els primers mesos dels moviments de la pla\u00e7a Catalunya (15M).<\/p>\n

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VO<\/strong>: D’alguna manera, generar aquestes dicotomies \u00e9s parlar des d’una bipolaritat que dissol les multiplicitats i, que com tu b\u00e9 comentes, ho a\u00eflla del col\u00b7lectiu. I sembla que en aquesta individualitat no hi ha un context o unes condicions que afavoreixin o dificultin l’\u00e8xit o el frac\u00e0s, com si tot esdevingu\u00e9s des de les nostres decisions individuals i aquestes no estiguessin travessades per la classe social, el g\u00e8nere, la ra\u00e7a… i una multitud de variants que, en combinaci\u00f3, afegeixen m\u00e9s o menys viol\u00e8ncies.<\/p>\n

Parlar del frac\u00e0s \u00e9s tamb\u00e9 posar en q\u00fcesti\u00f3 qui dona el valor i des de quin lloc. Tot i aix\u00ed, a vegades \u00e9s complicat tenir la capacitat d\u2019apartar-se per a no sentir-se atropellades per un sistema de compensacions als \u201cbons fers\u201d, i m\u00e9s quan aquestes compensacions s\u00f3n, en molts casos, econ\u00f2miques i determinen les nostres maneres de vida en un sistema capitalista. Per\u00f2 \u00e9s clar que la manera en la qual ens sostenim en contradiccions que ens resulten inevitables \u00e9s a trav\u00e9s d’aquests microh\u00e0bitats o micromons des dels quals sembla possible generar, o almenys interrompre, certes temporalitats.<\/p>\n

RD<\/strong>: En efecte, la vida de nosaltres els fracassats, exigeix una bona dosi d’enginy. Si les nostres conviccions i interessos m\u00e9s \u00edntims (jo els dic \u00abmotors\u00bb) s\u00f3n irrenunciables, i hem de conviure en la carrera liberal del sistema, estem constantment fent modificacions, creant n\u00ednxols que ens permetin entrar i sortir de la pista.<\/em><\/p>\n

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Pe\u00e7a impresa \u2014a manera de \u00abmanifest express<\/em>\u00bb\u2014 amb tipografies de plom a L\u2019Autom\u00e0tica el 2012.<\/p>\n

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L’\u00e8xit i el frac\u00e0s s\u00f3n finalment fruit d’un judici, com dieu, i \u00e9s dif\u00edcil que el ser jutjats no ens afecti d’alguna manera, per\u00f2 jo ho veig com una oportunitat de mirar des d’una altra perspectiva de forma conscient: sembla que ens veiem obligats a entrar en una carrera en la qual no volem competir per a poder llen\u00e7ar el que hem recollit en aquests \u00abmotors\u00bb del frac\u00e0s, per\u00f2 jo crec que si aquests n\u00ednxols o microh\u00e0bitats es construeixen i es reforcen a trav\u00e9s de la reflexi\u00f3, s\u00f3n justament espais de distensi\u00f3 i llibertat, que permeten entrar en la carrera amb for\u00e7a, treure el necessari i tornar. \u00c9s a dir, m’agrada la idea de mirar la infame carrera des de la mirada del hacker. El frac\u00e0s ben portat no \u00e9s una altra cosa que un bon hack del sistema.<\/em><\/p>\n

VO<\/strong>: Ens agrada aix\u00f2 del hack del sistema, que \u00e9s al mateix temps un hack del nostre propi judici, com si el frac\u00e0s fos una elecci\u00f3, com si no actu\u00e9s a manera d’una esp\u00e8cie d’imperatiu categ\u00f2ric, una esp\u00e8cie de disciplina autoimposada volunt\u00e0riament contra la qual hem d’aprendre a laurear els nostres fracassos, a cantar vict\u00f2ria a la decepci\u00f3, a conquerir la frustraci\u00f3, a, en definitiva, habitar la contradicci\u00f3 sense por, ni esperan\u00e7a.<\/p>\n

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[i]<\/a>\u00a0Cagadas \u00e9s una publicaci\u00f3 de Vista Oral editada per Los cinco delfines que es publicar\u00e0 durant el 2019.<\/p>\n

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