{"id":32682,"date":"2021-06-14T06:00:20","date_gmt":"2021-06-14T05:00:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/a-desk.org\/?p=32682"},"modified":"2023-07-09T14:34:01","modified_gmt":"2023-07-09T12:34:01","slug":"movimiento-justicia-museal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/a-desk.org\/ca\/magazine\/movimiento-justicia-museal\/","title":{"rendered":"Movimiento Justicia Museal"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Johanna Palmeyro (Joy) \u00e9s muse\u00f2loga, educadora, creadora, activista. Com a treballadora de l&#8217;estat \u00e9s co-coordinadora de l&#8217;\u00c0rea de Museologia i Comunitats al Museu Casa de Ricardo Rojas, a Buenos Aires. Com a activista i educadora d\u2019art \u00e9s el primer tentacle de Movimiento Justicia Museal, un projecte que va n\u00e9ixer fa un any i que revisa, difumina, bufeteja, agita els museus i bressola els qui el vam construir des de dins.<\/p>\n<p>Joy diu que Movimiento Justicia Museal (MJM) \u00e9s un b\u00e0lsam per a ella. Un espai per dir tot el que no pot des de les institucions. Un lloc de rebel\u00b7lia i de ter\u00e0pia, en dues direccions, una de p\u00fablica i una altra de privada. Considera que t\u00e9 a veure amb la just\u00edcia social per\u00f2 tamb\u00e9 amb les injust\u00edcies individuals que pateixen les treballadores de la cultura i dels museus en particular. MJM \u00e9s obedi\u00e8ncia al present dels carrers i desobedi\u00e8ncia a les institucions.<\/p>\n<p>Ana Andr\u00e9s Crist\u00f3bal:\u00a0<strong>Fa un any que treballes permanentment amb MJM. Com ho ha rebut la ciutat?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Johanna Palmeyro (Joy):\u00a0<\/strong>La veritat \u00e9s que s&#8217;ha rebut amb molt d&#8217;amor i molt d\u2019odi. Les frases donen brega. Generalment els enganxo en llocs clau. No en qualsevol lloc. Hi son prop dels museus per dialogar amb la instituci\u00f3 on hi \u00e9s. Va passar amb la primera frase &#8220;Els museus s\u00f3n per a tothom per\u00f2 nom\u00e9s una elit ho sap&#8221; al Museu Nacional de Belles Arts, que \u00e9s una reversi\u00f3 d&#8217;una frase de Dora Garc\u00eda. El vaig enganxar, a l&#8217;endem\u00e0 vaig tornar i estava mig arrencat i dues senyores passaven, el van veure i van comentar davant meu: &#8220;aix\u00f2 \u00e9s una bajanada&#8221;. Em va fer molta gr\u00e0cia. No obstant aix\u00f2, despr\u00e9s de la viralitzaci\u00f3 a trav\u00e9s del post del Ministeri de Cultura, que va compartir la imatge, molta gent ha trobat un referent per decidir com afrontar i viure els museus.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/a-desk.org\/ca\/?attachment_id=32646\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-32646\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1280\" height=\"960\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-32646\" src=\"http:\/\/a-desk.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Joy_MJM_arranca-nena.jpeg\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/a-desk.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Joy_MJM_arranca-nena.jpeg 1280w, https:\/\/a-desk.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Joy_MJM_arranca-nena-533x400.jpeg 533w, https:\/\/a-desk.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Joy_MJM_arranca-nena-768x576.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Ana Andr\u00e9s Crist\u00f3bal:\u00a0<strong>Aquest primer cartell de qu\u00e8 parles va n\u00e9ixer des de l&#8217;obra de Dora Garc\u00eda per\u00f2 inclou influ\u00e8ncies de la gr\u00e0fica de Joan Carlos Romero i la for\u00e7a desobedient de Liliana Maresca. No obstant, s&#8217;ha inoculat quelcom personal de qui habita des de l\u2019educaci\u00f3. Quins altres referents construeixen el teu pensament i la teva pr\u00e0ctica?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Joy:\u00a0<\/strong><span lang=\"CA\">Em mouen un munt de disciplines que no tenen a veure necess\u00e0riament amb el m\u00f3n de l&#8217;art. Per exemple, el\u00a0<\/span> <strong>Movimiento zapatista de M\u00e9xico<\/strong>, que va inventar un referent fictici perqu\u00e8 la societat demana referents que tinguin el control, per\u00f2 en realitat la seva estructura \u00e9s totalment horitzontal. Clarament la\u00a0<strong>Uni\u00f3n de trabajadores de la Tierra<\/strong>. La seva lluita \u00e9s bella i hem de teixir una alian\u00e7a cultura-camp. Admiro la seva lluita per\u00f2 tamb\u00e9 la seva forma d&#8217;organitzaci\u00f3. Hi ha una prioritat que \u00e9s canviar les lleis que permeten l&#8217;acc\u00e9s a la terra i per darrere hi ha un entramat d&#8217;altres lluites necess\u00e0ries per\u00f2 amb la legislaci\u00f3 com a focus. <strong>Marlene Wayar<\/strong>. Ella \u00e9s una referent i activista transvestida. Va escriure \u201cTransvestida: una teoria prou bona\u201d. Vaig tenir clar que el seu missatge era el que jo entenia com a cultura: sortir d&#8217;un espai de privilegi i habitar altres espais. Ens recorda que el que ha estat instal\u00b7lat com a cultura, no necess\u00e0riament ho \u00e9s. Ella \u00e9s actualment la coordinadora d&#8217;educaci\u00f3 al Palais de Glace, aqu\u00ed, a Buenos Aires. M&#8217;alegra que ocupi un espai pol\u00edtic. <strong>Sussie Shock<\/strong>. Ve tamb\u00e9 des de l&#8217;activisme <em>trans<\/em> per\u00f2 des del llenguatge de la m\u00fasica i des de la poesia. Utilitza els llenguatges del folklore de la tradici\u00f3 argentina, clarament patriarcals i els transvesteix. \u00c9s espectacular. D&#8217;identitat, Marr\u00f3n. \u00c9s un col\u00b7lectiu potent d&#8217;artistes, activistes, advocats i que lluita contra el racisme estructural d&#8217;Argentina. Elles parlen de construir una identitat marr\u00f3. Em semblen molt inspiradores, per la seva lluita i la seva capacitat de comunicaci\u00f3. De les arts, <strong>Jenny Holzer<\/strong>. Adoro com fa \u00fas de la paraula. Com amb una frase, un truisme, una frase curta, diu tant. Em sembla preci\u00f3s com ocupa un espai amb les paraules.<\/p>\n<p>Ana Andr\u00e9s Crist\u00f3bal:\u00a0<strong>\u00c9s interessant i molt complex situar-te. Et mous en uns l\u00edmits entre fora i dins. La teva pr\u00e0ctica com a treballadora de l&#8217;estat porta el poble a les sales-jardins. La teva feina personal habita els carrers per q\u00fcestionar l\u2019interior de les institucions que funcionen, moltes vegades, com bombolles al marge de l&#8217;avui. On et situes en aquest espai intermedi tan complex? Fins a quin punt MJM tamb\u00e9 t\u00e9 aquest l\u00edmit?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Joy:\u00a0<\/strong>A mi tamb\u00e9 em costa llegir on s\u00f3c. No ho s\u00e9. Abans de MJM estava completament immersa en la institucionalitat. I completament conven\u00e7uda que la cultura p\u00fablica canviar\u00edem el m\u00f3n. <u>D&#8217;alguna manera ho segueixo pensant, si b\u00e9, no tant des de la instituci\u00f3 sin\u00f3 m\u00e9s aviat des dels llenguatges extramurs. Dels grups que neixen espont\u00e0niament als carrers i les seves converses.<\/u> Hi s\u00f3n a l&#8217;espai p\u00fablic per\u00f2 no a les institucions p\u00fabliques. La veritat \u00e9s que m&#8217;interessen les dues coses. Sense les institucions, MJM no existiria, ja que la seva feina \u00e9s justament q\u00fcestionar-les.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/a-desk.org\/ca\/?attachment_id=32649\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-32649\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1704\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-32649\" src=\"http:\/\/a-desk.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Joy_MJM_presnte-scaled.jpg\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/a-desk.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Joy_MJM_presnte-scaled.jpg 2560w, https:\/\/a-desk.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Joy_MJM_presnte-595x396.jpg 595w, https:\/\/a-desk.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Joy_MJM_presnte-768x511.jpg 768w, https:\/\/a-desk.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Joy_MJM_presnte-1536x1022.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/a-desk.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Joy_MJM_presnte-2048x1363.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Ana Andr\u00e9s Crist\u00f3bal:\u00a0<strong>MJM comen\u00e7a a internet. Surt als carrers a la nit i s&#8217;inocula en les institucions despr\u00e9s. Aquest projecte, que hauria de generar certes asprors dins dels museus pel seu clar hackeig a les estructures muse\u00edstiques i no obstant aix\u00f2 ha volgut ser integrat com a part de la producci\u00f3 cultural d&#8217;alguns museus nacionals d&#8217;Argentina. Quina creus que \u00e9s la ra\u00f3 d&#8217;aquesta incorporaci\u00f3 a les estructures culturals? No et preocupa la seva possible apropiaci\u00f3? Quina creus que ser\u00e0 la seva deriva futura?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Joy:\u00a0<\/strong>Jo treballo per a l&#8217;estat des del Museo Rojas per\u00f2 la meva feina com a creadora a MJM \u00e9s independent. \u00c9s el meu treball personal i aix\u00f2 ha estat dif\u00edcil de processar per les estructures de govern. Els cartells van n\u00e9ixer per ser als carrers. Des MJM dic el que vull. I \u00e9s aqu\u00ed quan surten les coses m\u00e9s potents, quan no tinc filtre.<\/p>\n<p>D&#8217;altra banda, no puc pensar una deriva. El futur \u00e9s una nebulosa. S\u00e9 que avui \u00e9s aix\u00f2. MJM viu en el present abordant el present. Treballa per fer visible i accionar aquesta reflexi\u00f3 sobre els museus. Penso tamb\u00e9 en canvis des de les lleis. Perqu\u00e8 canvi\u00efn les condicions laborals dels treballadors de museus i l&#8217;acc\u00e9s de totes les persones. S\u00ed que m&#8217;interessa que no es quedi a Argentina. \u00c9s una mica aclaparador perqu\u00e8 no s\u00e9 com fer que se sumin m\u00e9s enll\u00e0 de compartir cartells i conversar amb ells. No m&#8217;interessa l&#8217;estructura vertical. No ha de passar per mi.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/a-desk.org\/ca\/?attachment_id=32652\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-32652\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1071\" height=\"500\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-32652\" src=\"http:\/\/a-desk.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Movimiento-justicia-museal-afiches.png\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/a-desk.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Movimiento-justicia-museal-afiches.png 1071w, https:\/\/a-desk.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Movimiento-justicia-museal-afiches-595x278.png 595w, https:\/\/a-desk.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Movimiento-justicia-museal-afiches-768x359.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1071px) 100vw, 1071px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Ana Andr\u00e9s Crist\u00f3bal:\u00a0<strong>El teu fer antipatriarcal, decolonial, antiracista, distribu\u00eft i inclusiu posa en una situaci\u00f3 dif\u00edcil els fonaments dels nostres museus que fan \u00fas de discursos aparents per\u00f2 la seva pr\u00e0ctica es dissimula per les in\u00e8rcies hist\u00f2riques, les pedagogies i pol\u00edtiques invisibles que limiten, paralitzen i foraden la revisi\u00f3 pr\u00e0ctica de les seves pr\u00f2pies paraules. Sento a MJM com un toc d&#8217;atenci\u00f3. Creus que \u00e9s realment possible refundar els museus?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Joy:\u00a0<\/strong>Els museus seguiran existint. Van n\u00e9ixer per complir els interessos d&#8217;una burgesia. Per legitimar els seus objectes. I no podem seguir les ordres d&#8217;aquestes elits i bases del passat. Hem de deixar de pensar que el museu no \u00e9s el present i donar pas a noves veus i narratives que s\u00f3n aqu\u00ed. La nostra feina \u00e9s fer d\u2019intermediaris perqu\u00e8 aquests buits i relats puguin construir i reformular aquest present. Aquestes veus, com Uni\u00f3 de treballadors de la terra han pres el jard\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>Ana Andr\u00e9s Crist\u00f3bal:\u00a0<strong>Joy, vols dir alguna cosa m\u00e9s?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Joy:\u00a0<\/strong>MJM \u00e9s del carrer. Encara que em convoquin des de les institucions. Pertany a l&#8217;espai p\u00fablic. Lluito contra el verticalisme i les seves estructures. No vull ser-ne la referent ni la l\u00edder. No vaig inventar res de nou. Aix\u00f2 ja passa en un munt d&#8217;espais. Nom\u00e9s vaig fer cartells per visibilitzar. Hi ha moltes persones fent just\u00edcia museal. Jo nom\u00e9s vull ser-ne una m\u00e9s.<\/p>\n<p>Feu-ho, apropieu-vos-en.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Johanna Palmeyro (Joy) \u00e9s muse\u00f2loga, educadora, creadora, activista. 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